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“It’s dozens of terrorist events that these have helped prevent.”
Gen. Keith B. Alexander, NSA director, tells senators. –Wall Street Journal June 13 2013
Listen to the premise of the statements -Example,
these programs have helped us foil plots.
The real question is , can the same data found be gathered without removing the privacy and freedoms of US citizens? And using less money ?
800 million projected cost to date to create mass surveillance sites to carry out data collection,
NSA Building $860 Million Data Center in Maryland
As its current data collection makes headlines, the National Security Agency is continuing to expand its data storage and processing capabilities. The agency recently broke ground on an $860 million data center at Fort Meade, Maryland that will span more than 600,000 square feet, including 70,000 square feet of technical space.
Last month the NSA and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers began building the High Performance Computing Center-2, an NSA-run facility that will be located on base at Fort Meade, which is home to much of the agency’s existing data center operations. The data center will be supported by 60 megawatts of power capacity, and will use both air-cooled and liquid-cooled equipment.
The NSA is already building a massive data center in Utah, investing up to $1.5 billion in a project that will feature up to 1 million square feet of facilities.
(For full article)
Does dragnet surveillance using drones, gathering email and phone records work?
would a Serpico type of investigation targeted and warranted, work as well or better and cost less?
These are the questions we need to ask when freedoms are removed in the name of security.
LISTEN, FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10067
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:00 PM
‘We’re in the Abyss’: My KPFK ‘BradCast’ Interview with Daniel Ellsberg on Edward Snowden
_EXCLUSIVE: Legendary ‘Pentagon Papers’ whistleblower offers frank comment on the NSA whistleblower; the dangers of our privatized surveillance state; the failure of Congressional oversight; and journalists ‘discrediting their professions’…
In his column over the weekend, lauding the “conscience and patriotism” of NSA contractor-turned-whistleblower Edward Snowden, legendary “Pentagon Papers” whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg cited a 1975 warning about the NSA from Sen. Frank Church (D-ID), chairman of the U.S. Senate Select Committee tasked with investigating unlawful intelligence gathering by the NSA, CIA and FBI following the Watergate scandal.
“I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America,” Church said, “and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”
On Wednesday, during a fascinating interview on The BradCast on KPFK/Pacifica Radio, Ellsberg said directly, in the wake of Snowden’s disclosures: “We’re in the abyss. What he feared has come to pass”.
See www.democraticunderground.com for full article
Mike Gravel, Senator Who Disclosed Pentagon Papers, Backs Edward Snowden
Posted: 06/14/2013 7:34 am EDT | Updated: 06/14/2013 8:34 am EDT
WASHINGTON — Mike Gravel, the former Alaskan senator who publicly released Daniel Ellsberg’s Pentagon Papers by placing them into the congressional record in 1971, told HuffPost he supports Edward Snowden’s release of National Security Agency secrets, but he worries that little reform will come of the disclosure.
Ellsberg has suggested Congress dig into the matter of NSA surveillance of Americans, but Gravel, while noting his deep admiration for Ellsberg, said he didn’t see the point.
“It’s just a waste of time when you see the reaction of [Intelligence chair Dianne] Feinstein, of Harry Reid, the Republican leadership, the Democratic leadership.” he said. “Anything that would come out of a select committee wouldn’t be worth the powder to blow it to hell.”
Gravel served in counter-intelligence in Europe while in the military, and said that the “cult of secrecy” has gotten out of the control of the public. “I can understand [Wikileaks leaker Bradley] Manning and Snowden and admire them both,” he said. “They have started a dialogue and they’re going to pay a price for it.”
Does anyone else feel this is becoming a star wars moment in time?
” You are my son. ” ( NSA current version)
” Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo….! ” (US public)
PEACE To All and happy Friday!
May the force be with you…..